An Expansion Scenario That Actually Makes Sense

by Mike Grant on June 12, 2010

in Big East,College Football,UConn Football

I’ve been relatively mum on the subject because I’ve been wanting to see this thing shake out a bit before I formulated my opinion, or plan if you will.  I’ve said before that my hope is that UConn ends up in the ACC when all is said and done, and that hasn’t changed.

Desmond Conner was way out in front on this thing

I have to credit my man Desmond Conner over at the Hartford Courant, who blogged on August 9th, 2009 that the Big East and ACC should merge and form a super-conference.  He went on to say if we didn’t like that, we should merge with the Big 10.  He was way out ahead of anyone else as far as I can tell; at least in the Northeast anyway.  He’s worked out all the scheduling and logistics already, so I won’t reiterate it all.

So, obviously I’m on team merge with the ACC.  From a map and footprint standpoint, it makes so much for sense for UConn, and most of our fellow Big East 8 members (football schools, I will refer to them as the 8).  As Desmond said, a merged Big East ACC would dominate the East Coast TV markets and form a ridiculous basketball league, and a legitimate power football conference.   Think of the basketball possibilities folks : Connecticut vs Duke and North Carolina, and rivalries with Syracuse and Pittsburgh would be maintained. 

From a football standpoint, look to our Rival to the north…Boston College.  We’d get to play the Eagles every year, and that my friends is good for business.  Rivalries fuel interest, and having a rival so close, would help recruiting.  We win our share of recruiting battles with Boston College, but still to this day, when we go head to head for a recruit, they win more battles than we do.  The gap is closing, but we’re not all the way there.  Play them every year, beat them, and watch how quickly that changes.  You want Connecticut kids to stay home, rather than go to BC?  Play them;  make the game huge.  Always schedule it for the last game of the year, and rotate that sucker between the Rent, the Heights and Gillette.   Or make it on Halloween every year, or something to that effect.  Give the game a moniker.  Kids growing up in Connecticut will pick a side in that rivalry, and more often than not, they’ll choose the Huskies.  Both Universities are missing the boat on this rivalry, which would surely increase revenues for both schools.

First things first, the 8 have to split from the basketball schools, immediately.    Sorry friends, but football is driving the bus on this thing, and we have to look out for our own interests.  We can still schedule  non-conference games with ‘Nova and Georgetown, don’t worry basketball traditionalists.  We can not trust that Providence is looking out for the best interests of the 8, maybe they are, maybe they aren’t, but it’s not a chance we should be willing to take.  This thing is at Defcon 3 right now, and schools need to start acting, and acting now, before Armageddon hits the East coast.  Sure, right now it’s just the Big 12 being torn apart, but don’t exhale too much…something wicked this way comes. 

Delany told Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe he was done with Big 12 schools

Jim Delany apparently told Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe that that the Big 10 is done with Big 12 schools, meaning if we take him at his word, Missouri did not make the cut for Big 10 expansion.  The Pac10 will be at 15 teams by Tuesday when Texas, Oklahoma, OK State and Texas Tech jump ship, the Big 10/SEC won’t be far behind.  SEC is already in talks with Texas A&M, who may ultimately end up in the Pac 10 anyway, but the point is the SEC is already exploring their options.  We already know the Big 10 is eyeing at least Rutgers from the Big East,  and that the ACC’s Maryland is now very much in play, and that the SEC is eyeing ACC teams, so we need to act now. 

Let’s get the 20 schools (the 8, plus the ACC) together now, to bang out an arrangement.   We don’t need a merged Big East/ACC to be 20 teams, we only need it to be 16.  Undoubtedly the Big 10 is going to pick one or two off, as will the SEC.   That’s okay.  Let’s all sit down and prearrange it.  “Okay Rutgers, we know you are hoping for a Big 10 invitation, will you agree to join the new Big Atlantic Conference (like that? We can work on it)?  Your contract will say that if the Big 10 offers you membership over the next 12 months, you are free to go.  Same for you Maryland, West Virginia, Georgia Tech or whoever.  If the SEC calls, you will be free to go, but in the meanwhile, everyone let’s agree on this.” 

I think it’s a great way for 20 schools to essentially cover their behinds.  Plus, and this is really the point, I wonder if the Rutgers, Va Techs and Marylands of the world would want to leave for another super-conference, once presented with their own.  Sweeten the pot now ACC, grab the 8, you could potentially sway a school or three you would lose over the next year to stay.  Any of the 20 should be thrilled with this solution, because it ensures long term stability, no matter how this thing shakes out.    If the Big Atlantic was plucked below 16 over the course of the next 12 months, which I don’t believe it would be, there are still viable non-BCS additions that can be made, and there’s always a possibility of striking back and taking someone like a Vanderbilt, if it became necessary.  If the 20 remain 20, then great, Desmond Conner’s plan is ready to go into effect.

Get the Big Atlantic Network crankin’ folks, Boston to Miami is covered.   The Super-conference era is upon us, in the immortal words of Dennis Hopper “Now boys, don’t get watchin’ the paint dry!”

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jeremy June 12, 2010 at 3:41 pm

This is the best scenario right now for the big east football schools by far!!! The football schools have to take off from the BBall schools now!!!

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Russell June 12, 2010 at 4:19 pm

This seems like a good scenario. But how does this change if a school like Kansas is looking for somewhere to go? Or K State?

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Michael Grant June 12, 2010 at 5:43 pm

Russell, that's a choice the Big East Football schools are going to have to make. Do you try to partner with Kanas, KState, Iowa State and Mizzou, or do they try to partner with the ACC. Either outcome is palatable… I can live with a West Division of : Cincy,Ville, Iowa State, Mizzou, Kansas, KState and an East Division of WVU, UConn, USF, RU, SU, Pitt.
That'd be my second choice. The problem being, one or more of the Eastern Division teams (Rutgers possibly Cuse) could be plucked by the Big10. So then the East adds UCF…it's not terrible…I just prefer the Big Atlantic.

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Michael Grant June 12, 2010 at 5:46 pm

If the Big East were to just add Kansas, to replace say Rutgers, it would still be way to vulnerable in my opinion. Kansas is probably an upgrade over Rutgers, but the Big East needs to get serious about getting up to at least 12 teams (and maybe more down the road). If the Big Atlantic model were to come to fruition, expansion discussions could be more or less permanently put to bed on the East Coast.

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ACC Alum June 13, 2010 at 11:29 am

As an ACC alum, and currently living in the heart of ACC country with a friend who works for the ACC, I can say without a doubt, that UConn WILL become a member of the ACC. Closed-door discussions have already started. Syracuse and Pitt are next with final consideration being given to South Florida, Rutgers and West Virginia (although the Big Ten holds the trump card with team).

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Michael Grant June 13, 2010 at 1:39 pm

I hope your source is right ACC, that would certainly be a good scenario for UConn.

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Epark88 June 13, 2010 at 10:34 am

An awesome scenario – it almost makes TOO much sense to happen.

And a BC-UConn football matchup would no doubt benefit both sides. It’s time to play this game. Here’s a moniker idea: ‘The Nor’easter’…

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Michael Grant June 13, 2010 at 3:54 pm

Epark, love the Nor'easter…perfect…

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d1reality June 13, 2010 at 7:13 pm

uconn would love to be in ACC, they would hope to have a home in any conference after all this shakes out.

If the Big Ten raids some schools from the Big east to fill out to 16, uconn may be left alone. If the ACC were to take uconn, it would be as a desperation move resulting from a possible migration of ACC powers to an expansion by the SEC.

Aside from regional New England coverage, uconn does not exist on the D1 map.

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Mike Grant June 13, 2010 at 4:20 pm

You overstate UConn’s irrelevance. Connecticut football is a program on the rise and making great strides. The ACC or Big 10 for that matter, when looking at programs, look as much at what a program can bring in the future as anything else. You can call us irrelevant if you wish, but we are not irrelevant on the field. As evident in Birmingham when UConn soundly defeated South Carolina, who beat the tar out of ACC division champion Clemson just one game earlier. You a BC fan d1reality? I’m guessing you are.

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CaliforniaSteve June 13, 2010 at 8:51 pm

Great article Mike, was interesting to see your thoughts on this subject.

Question: Outside of joining up with the Big East what are some of the other possibilities for the Big 12 castoff teams (KU, KST, ISU, MIZZ)?

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Michael Grant June 14, 2010 at 1:57 am

KU looks like they might luck out here…Texas A&M looks to be heading to the SEC, leaving an open spot in the Pac-16. Kansas is believed to be the next target. KState, Iowa State, Mizzou and Baylor are going to have to wait it out…hard to say at this point. The MWC was rumored to be interested. I think Baylor ends up in C-USA…just my opinion.

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d1reality June 13, 2010 at 9:43 pm

OK, uconn beat South Carolina (certainly a step up from the big bowl victory over Buffalo in that bowl in Canada), and aside from South Florida, in 2009 they did not post victory against a BCS team with a winning record during the regular season, not impressive or big time.

Not into BC, they do not invoke as much passion in the ACC as VT and Miami do. When you travel outside of CT, uconn has no gridiron relevance. They should hope the Big Ten stops at 12.

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Michael Grant June 14, 2010 at 1:02 am

The Huskies won at Notre Dame, and true, Notre Dame went 6-6 on the year, but was 6-4 when we played them. You don't get to say, okay, UConn beat South Carolina, but that doesn't count. It does count. UConn beat South Carolina, in SEC Country. UConn held SC to 205 yards, Alabama held them to 278, and Florida held them to 247. Following the death of Jasper Howard, UConn lost three consecutive games by a TOTAL of 10 points. Two of those games were on the road vs ranked opponents. You want to diminish what the Huskies are building towards, that's your right. It's a free country, do you. If you don't think they are relevant, and that nobody is paying attention to them, that's also your right. You'd be wrong, but that's your right.

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d1reality June 14, 2010 at 6:47 pm

Just take a trip out of Hartford sometime, into some of the other BCS conference neighborhoods. uconn has no relevance or player name recognition besides Jasper Howard – a terrible tragedy and the loss of a fine young man.

Ok uconn upset South Carolina – that was great, and following the above logic the huskies would easily topple Alabama and Florida. You would be wrong, but that's your right to think so.

Notre Dame finished as a .500 team, no bowl, a bleeding program in turmoil throughout the season, and the loss to uconn was the straw that broke the camel's and sent Charlie Weiss out of town on a fast rail.

They should hope the Big Ten stops at 12.

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Michael Grant June 14, 2010 at 7:59 pm

Notre Dame turned down a bowl, it's not that they weren't invited. I'm not saying we'd topple anyone, nor did I. What I said is, you can view us as irrelevant, but we are not irrelevant on the field. Are we a storied football program steeped in tradition? Of course not, but UConn carries a brand name, which any college sports fan recognizes. The most common thing I hear from non-UConn fans in other states is…"Hey you guys are getting pretty good in football now". I don't live in Hartford. I was in Charlotte for the Meineke Car Care bowl in 2007, as was I in Birmingham last season.

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Michael Grant June 14, 2010 at 8:01 pm

I had many a conversation with Birmingham residents about UConn football…they knew exactly who we were, and were impressed with the strides the program had made in such a short time. Especially after the win over SC.
FYI, a number of preseason lists have UConn in the top 25. Not on the radar huh? Preseason top 25 lists have everything to do with being on the radar. Give the Huskies time, every year they make strides. If they've come this far since 2003, imagine where they'll be down the road. Where do you live, D1?

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Michael Grant June 14, 2010 at 8:35 pm

We can agree to disagree D1, you've made your point.

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d1reality June 14, 2010 at 9:59 pm

First of all 6-6 teams should never be invited to bowl games. That is a farce and unfair to teams with better records, and better quality wins (but I will not digress into the preferential treatment Notre Dame has received over the years, still now as a fading program). I am a Connecticut native, living below the Mason Dixon line, and I make several trips to Storrs/Hartford a year to take in hoops and a football game if scheduling works.

I've grown weary of uconn's SEC/ACC envy and the chip on their shoulder related to the big name teams. When they lose that attitude or the impression that they always have something to prove, then I will be more inclined to take them seriously.

I will look on the real preseason lists for uconn when published – but I only count the ones that matter: USA Today, AP, maybe SI and Sporting News. Preseason lists are worth about a dime a dozen on the internet at best – just like yours and my ramblings :-) .

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d1reality June 15, 2010 at 2:22 am

Not sure about the SI preseason, this is one guy doing all the voting, Andy Staples – credible polls would be comprised of a consensus opinion.

Sporting News – not in top 25

USA and AP – as I said these are credible

Rivals?? I have heard of the site, but never their polling in any reference.

Athlon – does have them at 20th, congratulations, buy and issue and frame it.

Although, I don't recall much discussion about the Athon polls during the regular football season. however, not top tier poll, but if you keep Googling, uconn may turn up on some more like this.

Well at least Texas has made its decision and the madness has subsided, and the Big East has a chance to remain intact, good for the huskies, however, this probably dashes their dream of getting that ACC bid for now, hang in there though things could change.

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Michael Grant June 15, 2010 at 3:54 am

Okay, we'll throw out SI's preseason power rankings. Look I couldn't care less where or if UConn is preseason ranked. Is there anything more meaningless than preseason rankings? I'm just illustrating for you that UConn is actually gaining some national notority. Don't agree, I don't care.

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Michael Grant June 15, 2010 at 12:09 am

Rivals.com 19th : http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID…

Athlon Sports 20th : http://www.athlonsports.com/college-football/1890…

SI 24th: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/and…

sporting news 28th : http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/arti…

USA today and the AP aren't out yet. These are major publications/sites. Not independent blogs.

Now be fair and say saying the Huskies are irrelevant is probably overstating things…

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d1reality October 9, 2011 at 9:11 am

Wow, I think I am a prophet.

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